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Welland Ontario Canada trip
« on: April 17, 2012, 11:37:25 AM »
Hey, not sure where to post this,maybe there should be a section here that members can post their MCI trips ?? Including pictures.

Well it was that one day a year that you have cake & candles,for me. So I decided to get away from the family craziness and went on a short trip from home to the Niagara Falls Canada area. It's the first time having the bus out for me this year. I'm always a little hesitant about the first run. Never knowing what your going to forget or have fall off. Of course I had an issue right away. Seems every once in a while the fan belt likes to just pop off and hang there. I usually don't see the temp rising till it's almost too late but I happen to catch it this time. Luckily for me it was 50ft from a FlyingJ station.
I got that taken care off and went searching for fuel. FlyingJ was at $4.49, so I went 5 miles down to the REZ and there it's $4.12. I don't know why more truckers don't head over there to take advantage of the price difference but I'm sure as heck going to.
There are three crossings for you to get into Canada here in WNY. I had stopped at a friends house on Grand Island on the way (bridge toll $2.25) thats before you get into Niagara Falls NY. So I got to the border around lunchtime (another bridge toll - but if your MCI still looks like a bus and not a motorcoach, make sure you get the RV rate $3.25 vs the $13.50 bus rate. I forgot that but a toll person next to my lane told him).
I'm a frequent traveler to Canada. Most of the time at the border inspection the agent walks out expecting a bus load of people, yet it's just me sitting there. I tell them I'm just a camper. Then about 80% of the time they never even step up to look inside. They ask where I'm going and say have a nice trip - but for some reason I got the ''glove treatment'', today they decided to search my bus. I take no offence and actually enjoy someone looking over rig. It took them a good 15 minutes to go through the upper half and when the came out to check the ''basement''. I opened the doors and said ''have fun''. They sort of bent down to look and said ''thank you'' without touching a thing - lol. Ok so I take EVERYTHING with me. The cargo area is loaded with all sorts of stuff. I don't think the added weight is going to make that much of a difference vs me having to buy or borrow something when I need it on the road. After they were finished with the official inspection, the border agents were very friendly and asked non-border type questions. I'm always the promoter of owning something different.

Well I really did do any touristy things this trip, although I see the vampire museum is for sale (got me thinking). I mostly spent it with friends and party hopping. It was a very sunny day friday, so I went to watch the ships on the Welland canal. It's the waterway that connects Lake Ontario to Lake Erie. You can really see up close some really different type ships from all over the world here. I've seen ships loaded with just ore to those huge windmills. A friend runs an info center there in Thorold Canada called Lock 7. There they are right at one of the locks, where you can get a great view of the water traffic and a cup of coffee.
All along the canal there are little pull off areas with benches / trash cans / ''chip trucks'' (food vendors) / and bike paths along the whole length of the canal.
I ended up right underneath the QEW bridge. A nice quiet spot. Some vehicle traffic / some people walking their dogs / people on bikes / etc. I pulled out the lawn chair and had the bus at my back, with the water 20ft away from me. Nobody bothered me one bit. I had plenty of people saying hello and a few looking over my bus as they passed by. I chatted with many that stopped to ask me questions.
Well my goal was to get a few pictures of these ships coming by and have my bus included in the shots. Now  40ft bus thats 50 away from a 700 ft ship, kind of took some doing. So here is what I got......


You can see the QEW bridge there that you have to cross going from Toronto to Niagara Falls (no tolls). The other bridge you will cross is in Hamilton Canada.


Same ship from the rear-end.


This was a really cool ship. You can see the four cranes there and the little comand booths on each one.


this was with a very long laker. It was at a different location than the other spot that next day. This guy scraped the inside of the lock something fierce. I don't think they were very happy with him.

Yes my next goal is to buy a ship to put my bus on. A nice 60ft landing craft would be a blast.
Well sorry to bore you with travel pics of my trip.

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but if your ever in the Western NY area or Ontario Canada - let me know if you need anything - willing to help.

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Re: Welland Ontario Canada trip
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 12:44:21 PM »
I love the story.  We need more of these.  If we need a section just for travel stories I'd be glad to add it.
The pictures are great and the afternoon sounds wonderful.

I am glad to hear about the border crossing.  I've been wondering what it would be like to drive the bus into Canada, or worse, drive back into the US.  Seems when we travel we always have more trouble coming back into the US.  Almost never a problem going into Canada.  But, I've never taken the bus.

Any tips, tricks, or ideas are helpful.... maybe "tricks" is the wrong word here :(

Thanks again for the story.

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Re: Welland Ontario Canada trip
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 01:17:30 AM »
Sounds like a good trip... you were minutes from my home on the US side....
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Re: Welland Ontario Canada trip
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 11:27:25 AM »
The border is no sweat. It is true that I've had more issues with the American agents vs the Canadian. You are in a weird area here, as it's kind of like a non-country zone on the bridge. As far as I know (I'm no lawyer and never questioned them) your rights are kind of limited. They can search you to their desire. They can hold you there as long as they want. They will tear your rig apart and don't have to put it back together. They can go through your computer and cell phones as they please. I have seen this happen.
Also just limit the booze (i think a case per person or 1 bottle of hard stuff) / tobacco (1 carton i think?) / guns (don't bring them or mention them) Don't say anything about working over there. Keep the answers simple. What ever you say gets put into a file on the computer.
Everyone here always says ''we are going over to play the slots'', even though the Indian casino is with in walking distance on the American side (tell them better odds in Canada). but coming back just remember - you are an American citizen and they can not deny you back into the states. You might sweat it out for a few hours in the office but as long as you were honest, they can't hurt you. Oh and you need a passport or an enhanced drivers license.....well unless you can otherwise prove your a citizen.

Sorry, that's the worst - not meant to scare you off - just the facts. 99% of the time is no where near that. In 44 years I think I have been searched less than 10 times. They say it's an automated thing or they are clued into something or bored. With my buses, I've been across probably 30 times and searched twice.

My ''trick'' - if your worried about your cell phone and the text / email access on that - take the Sim card out / put it on a piece of black tape / and affix it in some hidden dark place Maybe put the battery somewhere else too. If they ask just say '' I can't believe I left me regular cell phone at home. This one is just for 911 emergencies''. You can also purchase throw away phones at 7-11 stores if your cell doesn't work in Canada.

Like I said I travel there like 10-15 times a year. I try to stay away from the touristy areas for crossing. Rainbow bridge at the falls has a lot of bus traffic / Peace bridge at Buffalo NY is terrible during football & hockey games / Queenston-Lewiston bridge can have 5 mile long lines coming into the states, as there are no exit ramps close to the border to get off and avoid that bridge. I've never crossed there in my bus, I hate it so much.

You need to use the RV / Bus lane or they come out to yell at you. I had that happen once. Not a big deal, they thought I wouldn't fit in the car reception area - It was tight.
Most of these are all the way to the right side of the complex or between the car lane and tractor trailer lane - with the exception of the inbound to Canada from the Peace bridge. The RV / Bus lane is to the left of the building in the center of the complex. The American side is the worse - very tight. but also remember you are in the same lane as the tourist buses and the 60 or so people loaded on those. I've been told at the Rainbow bridge, there was 50 buses ahead of mine to go through. So kind of take a glance across the bridge before you cross, to see the traffic.

You then shut off your bus and wait for the agent to come to you. You hand them your passport/ license and wait for them to trip you up, lol. Most of the time the Canadians ask ... where am I going ? for how long ? anything to declare ? and have a nice trip. Both sides take their time as they are running your license. So if the computers are running slow, they ask more difficult questions to take up time.

Clifton hill (Niagara falls Canada) is a kids dream with weird places to look at. Kind of like Las Vegas of the east (note the adult establishments are on the out skirts of town). Plenty to see and do for all.
http://www.cliftonhill.com/

Always willing to help in this. Maybe a travel area on the board might help in the magazine? I'm no writer but I do like the odd ball areas of travel.

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some more links ........

Lock 7 Thorold, Canada
http://www.niagaragreenbelt.com/listings/17-canals/308-lock-7-viewing-complex-.html

Wifi at McDonald's
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/content/ca/en/restaurant_locator/restaurant_locationsresults.html?country=canada&method=search&language=&primaryCity=l2g2m3&postalCode=
 
90% of all McDonalds in Canada had free wifi at the end of May last year. http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/our_story/corporate_info/press_room/PR_Would_You_Like_Free_Wi_Fi_With_That.html

THE FLYING SAUCER DRIVE-IN
http://www.fallscasino.com/saucer/
6768 Lundy's Lane,
Niagara Falls, Ontario
Call: 356-4553

Fallsview Casino
http://www.fallsviewcasinoresort.com/

More wine info
http://winesofontario.org/

Whirlpooljet tours
http://www.whirlpooljet.com/index2.cfm
A ride you will never forget

Here's some links for the OFFICIAL travel requirements for crossing the border between the US and Canada.


Canadian Side...
http://geo.international.gc.ca/can-...nav/whti-en.asp

And...
http://www.ontariotravel.net/TcisCt...e=EN&linkType=I

US Side...
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

PEACEBRIDGE CAMERAS
http://www.peacebridge.com/webcam.php

CANADIAN CAMERAS
http://www.securityandmore.com/cctv2.asp?Model_ID=600&Task=Detail

CANADIAN BORDER INFO
http://cbp.gov/



Here's a good site for doing your Currency Exchange calculations...

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

Remember, your bank may have an Exchange Rate that differs slightly from what is posted on this site.

Here's some Currency Exchange links for two popular Canadian banks....

TD Canada Trust
http://www.tdcommercialbanking.com/...nance/rates.jsp
Royal Bank of Canada (RBC)
http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/RBC:Rg4...el/fxconvert.pl

Send/Receive money worldwide

http://www.westernunion.com/info/selectCountry.asp

Money Mart is among the most popular locations where you can send/receive a Western Union money transfer in Toronto/GTA.
http://www.moneymart.ca/find_stores.asp

Money Mart (US)
http://www.moneymart.com/MM/find_mm.asp



« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 11:37:43 AM by Bruggs bus »
Always buying somethin different = junk

own a 1987 MCI-9 / 6v-92 / automatic / converting into half party bus ~ half camper - lol

but if your ever in the Western NY area or Ontario Canada - let me know if you need anything - willing to help.

thanks for helping my insanity

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Re: Welland Ontario Canada trip
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 07:10:04 PM »
Tikvah, that's a great idea, maybe even a good trip / bad trip sections, lvmci
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Re: Welland Ontario Canada trip
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 03:59:19 PM »
Well, I moved it, then lost the remainder of the discussion. 
I'm sorry - I don't know how that happened.

But - I love stories like these more than some of the other topics... send them, even non-bus adventures are welcome!

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Re: Welland Ontario Canada trip
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2012, 02:48:31 PM »
looks like it's all there.
I'll try not to make anyone crazy with my travels.
Thanks for the new area to post.
Now I just have to remember the camera.

Bruggs bus

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Always buying somethin different = junk

own a 1987 MCI-9 / 6v-92 / automatic / converting into half party bus ~ half camper - lol

but if your ever in the Western NY area or Ontario Canada - let me know if you need anything - willing to help.

thanks for helping my insanity